gnupic: gpal fork
Subject:
Re: gpal fork
From:
Michiel Boerman ####@####.####
Date:
9 Mar 2004 15:55:55 -0000
Message-Id: <7262D028-71DD-11D8-B0A2-000502D16926@id5r.nl>
Point taken.
just a thing about Apple though. I haven't really worked out for myself
wether i find their way in this issue 100% ethical. It's on another
scale -certainly- but it does feel a bit like what the oopic dudes are
doing.
Michiel
On Mar 9, 2004, at 3:28 PM, Byron A Jeff wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:19:03PM +0100, Michiel Boerman wrote:
>> Don't agree with you on this one. Sometimes it takes a commercial
>> initiative to get things moving a bit. I'm a Mac user. I'm very happy
>> with the connection they made with the open-souce-universe. But I'm
>> equally happy with their proprietary user interface which they guard
>> as
>> a hellhound. Helps to set a standard (and a high quality one in my
>> opinion). And that is the achilles heel of the open source world. too
>> many little islands doing their own thing.
>> The oopic thing is just the wrong combination of both worlds. Yet
>> another island with little added value from the commercial push.
>
> But the two concepts of closed source and commercial are orthogonal.
> RedHat
> makes millions every year selling distributions and services that can
> be
> freely downloaded.
>
> BTW Apple is like apples and gorillas in this argument primarily
> because
> they are a well established enough concern that they can be responsive
> to
> their customers needs. The other thing is that in a lot of ways their
> base
> OS is firmware tied to their hardware.
>
> All I'm saying is that the forker can easily make a value added package
> putting together Open Source software and selling the packages. In
> every market
> there is a group who simply want to be users. You can always sell to
> them and
> they will happily buy. They have no interest in redistributing. They
> just want
> to use it. They are happy to pay for the convenience.
>
> The bottom line is that the scarcity model of closed source
> development is
> going the way of the dodo bird. And those who cling to it instead of
> adapting
> to the new software market are going to find themselves in the same
> spot as
> the bird: extinct.
>
> BAJ
>
>>
>> Michiel
>>
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2004, at 1:27 PM, Byron A Jeff wrote:
>>
>>> What closed source authors have not yet figured out is that there
>>> really isn't
>>> a constituency that exists anymore that benefits from the closed
>>> source model.
>>> There used to be a time where it was a viable profit model. It just
>>> isn't
>>> anymore. Here's what's going to happen: Developers won't use it
>>> because it
>>> won't meet their needs. Someone will need a Mac or FreeBSD or other
>>> kind of
>>> port. Others will need better performance or a specialized interface.
>>> But
>>> in the closed source model only one person (or a small group) can
>>> fulfill
>>> all of these requests. So it'll move slowly.
>
