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Subject: Re: GTK+Extra2.0 dependency hell
From: Justin Fielding ####@####.####
Date: 10 Jan 2005 12:08:16 +0000
Message-Id: <41E26C8D.8010301@okulyillari.com>

Is this qt3 that people speak of the FOX implementation that the OGLE 
dvd player GUI uses?  If so, that certainly looks good and installs 
without any problems on systems I have used (FC2, FC3, Debian).

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm not that deep in to GUI stuff 
and only have email access at the moment so I couldn't check it out on 
the web.

Justin.

Scott Dattalo wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Geoff Horn wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 08 January 2005 18:33, Scott Dattalo wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Borut Razem wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Gpsim's GTK+Extra2.0 dependency is really a pain in the as (excuse my
>>>> words).
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> BTW, I saw a post from Adrian Feiguin (the original GTK extra 
>>> author) on
>>> the GTK list the other day. I wonder if he's going to fix GTK extra...
>>>
>>> Scott
>>
>>
>> Why the dependancy (apart from invested time/experience) on GTK, why 
>> not fork
>> to a more stable graphics library like qt3, or even FLTK?
>
>
> Geoff,
>
> GTK+Extra has nothing to do with GTK. It is not managed by GTK team. 
> They're completely separate.
>
> GTK is stable. GTK+Extra-2.0 is not stable.
>
> So, I *have* made a conscientious decision to remove gpsim's 
> dependency of GTK Extra. The fork is a branch in CVS called gui2. This 
> was discussed about three months ago or so. Since then, I've written 
> down a loose set of features that I want in the new gui (it's in CVS 
> and called TODO-GUI). I wrote some prototype code that demonstrated a 
> subset of these and I even posted a link to a screen shot illustrating 
> it. We've also have discussed replacements for GTK sheet (really the 
> only widget gpsim is deeply dependent upon). I've written two 
> different register sheet prototypes, neither of which I really like.
>
> I've also considered qt3, FLTK and even wxWindows. However, I really 
> don't think the problem is the tool-kit per se. The problem is with a 
> third party widget. But gpsim is structured for the most part such 
> that the gui is not deeply entrenched in the simulator core. In fact, 
> gpsim is comprised of three libraries: the core stuff, the command 
> line interface, and the gui. In theory, the gui could simply be 
> replaced with something else. Since GTK-2.x has been released, I have 
> made more reliance on GLIB (a library supported by the GTK team and 
> upon which GTK depends). However, I suspect that GLIB can coexist with 
> any graphics tool kit.
>
> Overall, the biggest problem is time...
>
> Scott
>
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