gnupic: Re: [PIC] PIC development under Linux with Wine
Subject:
RE: [PIC] PIC development under Linux with Wine
From:
Chen Xiao Fan ####@####.####
Date:
26 May 2005 03:17:42 +0100
Message-Id: <3B8AEFFADD3DD4118F8100508BACEC2C07F77225@spex>
Do not know if this is approriate. Another forwarded message.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chen Xiao Fan
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:13 AM
To: 'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.'
Subject: RE: [PIC] PIC development under Linux with Wine
The component that MPLAB 7.1 under Wine does not work:
1) Support of project management: can be substituted by MAKE
2) Support for ICD2 for debugging and programming
3) Support for other hardware tools: Pickit 1 not working,
Promate II most likely not working due to broken Serial
support in Wine. MPLAB ICE2000/4000: no chance of working?
The component that MPLAB7.1 and other Microchip tools works
better than similar tools.
1) MPASM: majority of code is written in MPASM, not GPASM
2) MPASM 30: no counterpart in GPASM
3) MCC18: SDCC still has a long way to go. Hitech PICC18 under
Linux may be better but cost quite a lot. MCC18 has a free edition.
4) MPLAB C30: no counterpart yet. Even Hitech dSPICC 30 seems
very weak now (from the demo version). Microchip releases 60
day free version from time to time.
5) Faster support of new chips
Xiaofan
-----Original Message-----
From: Byron A Jeff ####@####.####
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:46 PM
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
Subject: Re: [PIC] PIC development under Linux with Wine
> Wine is just an intermediate step.
I hope so. I've been trying to use Wine for educational games
for nearly 10 years. It's never made any significant progress
in that area.
> I will hope more tools like LPLAB/GPutils/GPSim which are
> native Linux applications.
Well the begs a question: What other tools do you need to
develop under Linux/Mac? The last time I used a non native Linux
based tool for PIC development was running MPASM under DOSEMU.
That was before the advent of gpasm. So that must have been
about 8 years ago.
Most of us on the Linux/multiplatform side of things (Craig, Scott,
Brian Lane for awhile, Alain, Wouter (who is PythonMan! ;-) and
myself) have taken the approach that Open Source native applications
are the way to go. Olin has helped immensely by releasing
specifications and source for EasyProg.
> The best will be that Microchip
> release MPLAB under Linux ( wait long long lah, people
> in Singapore will say in Singlish).
I'm sure you meant "MPLAB under Linux". It'll never happen. And
that's because MPLAB is a tool that drives Microchip's core
business: selling PICs and other hardware.
And that's fine. None of the cross platform developers fault MChip for
that stance.
But I ask the question again: what functionality does MPLAB have that
you cannot find in other tools. At a casual glance I would say ICD
debugging support and possibly dsPIC support in gpasm.
But the toolset is there.
BAJ
