gnupic: Re: [gnupic] p18f parallel port programmer for PIC18F4550


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Subject: Re: [gnupic] p18f parallel port programmer for PIC18F4550
From: "Jay Dagenais" ####@####.####
Date: 17 Dec 2005 00:25:25 +0000
Message-Id: <BAY112-F66BC599D907CA1C1DE210D93D0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for all of the replies, especially to Ben, I will take your advice 
and keep looking for an "ideal" combo, with the key being FREE. I mean, 
anybody can spend money and buy somebody elses hardware, but understanding 
what is happening in that hardware can be difficult if you are not familliar 
with what you are using, which would be the reason why I need to build. 
Again thanks for all the assistance, this is a great list:)

>From: Ben Dugan ####@####.####
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>Subject: Re: [gnupic] p18f parallel port programmer for PIC18F4550
>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:19:30 -0500
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>Jay,
>
>Your questions are not at all stupid; these things get pretty confusing.
>
>The programmer I mentioned earlier does not need a "hardware programmer"
>but does require you to make a special cable. There's a pdf schematic
>for the cable in the zipped archive[1], and that schematic also attempts
>to show you what's needed for the in-circuit device (a few pull-ups, one
>pull-down).
>
>But: the program I wrote (p18f.c) is specifically for a PIC18F4550 and
>would need modifications to work with other chips.
>
>I think my advice would be for you to keep googling, reading the GNUPIC
>list stuff, until you find a combination of tools that will work in your
>specific case.
>
>Ben
>
>[1] http://www.curdes.com/gnupic/GnuPic.html
>
>Jay Dagenais wrote:
>>Here is a bit of a stupid question from a newbie, but with that parallel 
>>port programmer, does one still have to use a hardware programmer, or does 
>>this take the place of the typical hardware programmer? I am trying to 
>>program a variety of PICs, from the 18F252 to the 10F206, and want to know 
>>if I can use an in circuit programmer such as this as opposed to using the 
>>typical hardware type of programmer. There are so many different types of 
>>designs out there that I am just confused as all heck about how to 
>>proceed. Most of the free designs out there are based around an old type 
>>of pic, like the 16c series, and I don't work with any of the 16 series or 
>>any of the 'C' types of pics, and don't even really know what the 
>>differences are between the types. Basically, if somebody could point me 
>>into the right direction, that would really help me out at this point, as 
>>I am lost here. Ideally I would like to have a programmer or a method that 
>>could program as many different types of PICs as possible using the same 
>>device or software for all of them, if there is such a thing. Something 
>>running through Windows would be great, but something that would run under 
>>Linux and also has CLEAR instructions (as I am new to Linux and find alot 
>>of the help and man pages to be useless to me) would be great as well, 
>>because in the end I would ideally like to focus only on software running 
>>under Linux. I use Suse for now, but am starting to realize that there is 
>>better versions to use for the purpose as many of the programs that I see 
>>online have not been yet ported to Suse, and I have no ideas about how to 
>>do that myself. Thanks in advance for any help that you folks can offer!!
>>
>>
>>>From: Ben Dugan ####@####.####
>>>Reply-To: ####@####.####
>>>To: ####@####.####
>>>Subject: [gnupic] p18f parallel port programmer for PIC18F4550
>>>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:12:10 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>>Two of us here at Current Designs have written a program to do in-circuit 
>>>programming of PIC18F4550 chips via the parallel port.  We'd be happy to 
>>>share it if anyone would find it useful; of course its a 
>>>use-at-you-own-risk offer!
>>>
>>>We've used it to successfully load the bootloader that comes with the 
>>>PICDEM FS USB board (MCHPUSB.hex) onto our own board, so that further 
>>>program development can proceed through the usb port.
>>>
>>>The whole program is in a single C file.  I'd like to put it somewhere 
>>>where everyone can get at it easily, along with a pdf describing the 
>>>cable I use and a README.txt file.
>>>
>>>Ben
>>>
>>>
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