nanogui: Re: [Handhelds] Re: Small open source web browser introduced
Subject:
Re: [Handhelds] Re: Small open source web browser introduced
From:
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Date:
17 Jul 2000 17:09:47 -0000
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> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:50:52 -0600
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> Subject: [linuxce-devel] Re: [Handhelds] Re: Small open source web browser
> introduced
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> : Is there a reason that gtkhtml wasn't used?
> :
> : Brief pokings around suggest to me that it's a little bit
> : lighter.
> :
> : Of course, gtk+ would probably be harder to wrap than Qt.
>
> GTK+/GDK is absolutely huge, so it wasn't considered for very
> long for the embedded solution. (~2.5MB RAM usage for widget set)
I have estimates that show GTK+/GDK can be alot smaller from people I
have good reason to believe are likely correct......
From our perspective on an iPAQ, even unmodified, we have enough space
(though I'd certainly like it to also go on a diet.
The X server is 600Kbytes (down from more than 1.5 megabytes); Keith Packard
and I can also without much trouble reduce the size of Xlib by at least
600Kbytes. Between just those two we will have saved a good fraction of that
2.5MB.
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> Also, the GTK+ folks have not been very responsive nor interested
> in working with the Microwindows project, and we wanted to have
> a browser that could run on a much smaller windowing environment
> than X Windows, when desired. FLTK is already small, and much
> easier to convert. However, FLTK's lower level design is quite
> kludgy, and would vastly benefit from having a "GDK-like" layer.
They have their hands full with the current raft of things they are trying
to support.
I gather also that recent events are causing alot more interest...
So I expect by using X we can have our cake and eat it too (and not have
to build another window system (thank you, one was enough for me...).
Putting X on a diet turns out to be alot less work.
- Jim
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Jim Gettys
Technology and Corporate Development
Compaq Computer Corporation
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