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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best
OS for gnupic
From: Marco Pantaleoni ####@####.#### Date: 12 May 2006 07:01:41 +0100 Message-Id: <446424BD.1050904@elasticworld.org> Maxim Wexler wrote: > >> Finally when you are booted into the /boot/vmlinuz kernel please post the >> output of "uname -a" > > > Linux localhost 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #3 Thu Dec 22 23:22:19 MST 2005 i686 AMD > Sempron(tm) Processor 3100+ GNU/Linux > > > > See, thinks it's still 2.6.12. If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12. If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version". This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so... IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others? Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub configuration file?) Ciao, Marco -- Marco Pantaleoni elastiC language developer http://www.elasticworld.org | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best OS for gnupic
From: "Maxim Wexler" ####@####.#### Date: 12 May 2006 16:29:34 +0100 Message-Id: <a0811460605120829n604f653r7e1bb1ce579adcce@mail.gmail.com> On 5/12/06, Marco Pantaleoni ####@####.#### If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12. If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version". This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so... IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others? Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub configuration file?) Ciao, Marco I boot from the grub prompt. Not going to write a conf file until the thing is up and running the way I like. > -- > Marco Pantaleoni > > elastiC language developer > http://www.elasticworld.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ####@####.#### > For additional commands, e-mail: ####@####.#### > > | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own
name--Best OS for gnupic
From: "Samuel Leathers" ####@####.#### Date: 12 May 2006 21:18:06 +0100 Message-Id: <23513.216.166.206.19.1147465081.squirrel@gentux.org> just a suggestion, but if you are more interested in programming microchips than playing with linux kernels, why gentoo? I'd recommend something easy to setup and maintain like ubuntu, and then get code from cvs and compile manually. my .02 cents Sam > On 5/12/06, Marco Pantaleoni ####@####.#### > > If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12. > If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version". > This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so... > IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or > misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others? > Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub > configuration file?) > > Ciao, > Marco > > > I boot from the grub prompt. Not going to write a conf file until the > thing > is up and running the way I like. > > > >> -- >> Marco Pantaleoni >> >> elastiC language developer >> http://www.elasticworld.org >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ####@####.#### >> For additional commands, e-mail: ####@####.#### >> >> > -- Sam Leathers Sam Leathers Computer Services 814.574.7307 ####@####.#### www.samleathers.com -Computer repair services -Reliable business consulting -Web design and hosting that meets your needs -Collection of computers no longer needed -Student discounted repair rate -Server setups and networking ------------------------------------- | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best OS for gnupic
From: Dan Andersson ####@####.#### Date: 12 May 2006 23:18:43 +0100 Message-Id: <200605122318.41054.dan@andersson.co.uk> And why pissing about with Linux at all when there is FreeBSD? The Important thing is that the operating system should be secondary to the apps we want to run. At the very moment the operating system or different Linux variants makes a difference, it's eith a flawed app or a flawed OS. You need to make a choice, play with the kernels or do some work with PIC's... If the OS is good enough to run the apps - it's subsequently not broken. If it's not broken, don't mend it... That's a full £ of my thoughts, not just 0.02 Cents Cheers Dan / M0DFI On Friday 12 May 2006 21:18, Samuel Leathers wrote: > just a suggestion, but if you are more interested in programming > microchips than playing with linux kernels, why gentoo? I'd recommend > something easy to setup and maintain like ubuntu, and then get code from > cvs and compile manually. > > my .02 cents > > Sam > > > On 5/12/06, Marco Pantaleoni ####@####.#### > > > > If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12. > > If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version". > > This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so... > > IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or > > misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others? > > Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub > > configuration file?) > > > > Ciao, > > Marco > > > > > > I boot from the grub prompt. Not going to write a conf file until the > > thing > > is up and running the way I like. > > > >> -- > >> Marco Pantaleoni > >> > >> elastiC language developer > >> http://www.elasticworld.org > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ####@####.#### > >> For additional commands, e-mail: ####@####.#### | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best
OS for gnupic
From: "Robert S. Sciuk" ####@####.#### Date: 13 May 2006 02:30:29 +0100 Message-Id: <20060512212309.Y99594@saddam.controlq.com> On Fri, 12 May 2006, Dan Andersson wrote: > And why pissing about with Linux at all when there is FreeBSD? > > The Important thing is that the operating system should be secondary to the > apps we want to run. At the very moment the operating system or different > Linux variants makes a difference, it's eith a flawed app or a flawed OS. > > You need to make a choice, play with the kernels or do some work with PIC's... > If the OS is good enough to run the apps - it's subsequently not broken. > > If it's not broken, don't mend it... > > > That's a full £ of my thoughts, not just 0.02 Cents Actually, that's good advice. I've long ago decided that the BSD distros had some significant advantages over any number of Linux distros, and the fact that there are only 3 forks of BSD rather than the n Linux distros seem to show that they have covered their respective territory quite well: OpenBSD -- security NetBSD -- portability FreeBSD -- originally the best i386 OS, and now ported to a number of different architectures ... so now, likely the most complete, and best PORTS package available. I suggest that if you are reconsidering your Linux distro that you try FreeBSD as a solid alternative. As I type this, I'm using the latest FreeBSD (6.1) release on a freshly installed HP Omnibook 4150 (old). Works GREAT! HTH ... Cheers, Rob. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best OS for gnupic
From: "Xiaofan Chen" ####@####.#### Date: 13 May 2006 03:11:24 +0100 Message-Id: <a276da400605121911s2cfa5811gda7427dc82b018f9@mail.gmail.com> On 5/13/06, Robert S. Sciuk ####@####.#### wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2006, Dan Andersson wrote: > > > And why pissing about with Linux at all when there is FreeBSD? > > > Actually, that's good advice. I've long ago decided that the BSD distros > had some significant advantages over any number of Linux distros, and the > fact that there are only 3 forks of BSD rather than the n Linux distros > seem to show that they have covered their respective territory quite > well: > OpenBSD -- security > NetBSD -- portability > FreeBSD -- originally the best i386 OS, and now ported to a > number of different architectures ... so now, likely > the most complete, and best PORTS package available. > > I suggest that if you are reconsidering your Linux distro that you try > FreeBSD as a solid alternative. As I type this, I'm using the latest > FreeBSD (6.1) release on a freshly installed HP Omnibook 4150 (old). > Works GREAT! > I've tried FreeBSD for about one month and got most GNUPIC tools (gputils/gpsim/sdcc/pikdev/piklab/ktechlab/...) working. However one big problem with FreeBSD is the support for USB. I could not get PICkit 1/2 and ICD2 to work under FreeBSD since libusb is broken there. In the end I deleted the FreeBSD patition. In terms of hardware support, BSD is simply not good as Linux. I will say Ubuntu is one of the best for PIC developement now. Fedora Core 4/5 may another good choice as well. Regards, Xiaofan | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best
OS for gnupic
From: John Sheahan ####@####.#### Date: 13 May 2006 03:48:08 +0100 Message-Id: <446548DD.6060402@optushome.com.au> Xiaofan Chen wrote: > I will say Ubuntu is one of the best for PIC developement now. Fedora Core > 4/5 may another good choice as well. > agree. For someone that has better things to do than play sysadmin these 2 are good. the packaging tools for ubuntu are currently better than fedora in my opinion, (using both regularly) john | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best OS for gnupic
From: "Maxim Wexler" ####@####.#### Date: 14 May 2006 00:51:45 +0100 Message-Id: <a0811460605131651v37c32230q13ab2f21e27ada2@mail.gmail.com> Thanks guys(and guyettes if so ye may be) ubuntu it is! I tried it before and didn't like it much. Too wordy. I mean, debian-installer/framebuffer=false; c'mon, what's wrong with just nofb? Nevertheless I'm ready to pick up a new flavor(-our) if it means advancing my PIC career. Another thing, and this ubuntu seems to share w/ gentoo: bad dialup support. Why does everyone presuppose broadband or wifi is universal? It aint. Developers, have pity on us poor mountain folk living at the end of 10mi phone lines! Where cell phones are useless and rabbit ears proliferate! If ubuntu comes w/ pppconfig I'm all set :^D. Otherwise, it's iffy. Any pointers appreciated. -Maxim On 5/12/06, John Sheahan ####@####.#### wrote: > > Xiaofan Chen wrote: > > I will say Ubuntu is one of the best for PIC developement now. > Fedora Core > > 4/5 may another good choice as well. > > > > agree. For someone that has better things to do than play sysadmin these > 2 are good. > > the packaging tools for ubuntu are currently better than fedora in my > opinion, (using both regularly) > john > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ####@####.#### > For additional commands, e-mail: ####@####.#### > > | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best
OS for gnupic
From: John Sheahan ####@####.#### Date: 14 May 2006 08:44:50 +0100 Message-Id: <4466DFEE.6090000@optushome.com.au> Maxim Wexler wrote: > Why does everyone presuppose broadband or wifi is universal? It aint. > Developers, have pity on us poor mountain folk living at the end of 10mi > phone lines! Where cell phones are useless and rabbit ears proliferate! > > If ubuntu comes w/ pppconfig I'm all set :^D. Otherwise, it's iffy. Any > pointers appreciated. > > -Maxim I've had broadband for years now, and couldn't go back to a modem, so no experience with modem support on anything recent. Seems like you need a radio link to someone in ADSL range. bash> which pppconfig /usr/sbin/pppconfig breezy has pppconfig, but I'd suggest you install the newest one. Dapper in whatever prerelease you can get. john | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best
OS for gnupic
From: Peter ####@####.#### Date: 14 May 2006 09:37:36 +0100 Message-Id: <mfdgjw.scfon.ft@kvpi.up> > Maxim Wexler wrote: > >> Why does everyone presuppose broadband or wifi is universal? It aint. >> Developers, have pity on us poor mountain folk living at the end of 10mi >> phone lines! Where cell phones are useless and rabbit ears proliferate! >> >> If ubuntu comes w/ pppconfig I'm all set :^D. Otherwise, it's iffy. Any >> pointers appreciated. In addition to pppconfig you may want to save a lot of trouble and use an external modem if you are unfortunate enough to have a winmodem. Getting the latter to work is a black art. I will not go into the surfing experience in 2006 using a modem connection. You will find out soon enough ... good luck, Peter | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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