gnupic: Thread: Re: [gnupic] Fwd: [Bug 132141] kernel doesn't know its own name--Best OS for gnupic

Maxim Wexler wrote:
> 
>> Finally when you are booted into the /boot/vmlinuz kernel please post the
>> output of "uname -a"
> 
> 
> Linux localhost 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #3 Thu Dec 22 23:22:19 MST 2005 i686 AMD
> Sempron(tm) Processor 3100+ GNU/Linux
> 
> 
> 
> See, thinks it's still 2.6.12.

If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12.
If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version".
This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so...
IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or 
misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others? 
Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub 
configuration file?)

Ciao,
Marco

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If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12.
If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version".
This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so...
IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or
misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others?
Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub
configuration file?)

Ciao,
Marco


I boot from the grub prompt. Not going to write a conf file until the thing
is up and running the way I like.



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just a suggestion, but if you are more interested in programming
microchips than playing with linux kernels, why gentoo? I'd recommend
something easy to setup and maintain like ubuntu, and then get code from
cvs and compile manually.

my .02 cents

Sam

> On 5/12/06, Marco Pantaleoni ####@####.####
>
> If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12.
> If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version".
> This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so...
> IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or
> misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others?
> Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub
> configuration file?)
>
> Ciao,
> Marco
>
>
> I boot from the grub prompt. Not going to write a conf file until the
> thing
> is up and running the way I like.
>
>
>
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And why pissing about with Linux at all when there is FreeBSD?

The Important thing is that the operating system should be secondary to the 
apps we want to run. At the very moment the operating system or different 
Linux variants makes a difference, it's eith a flawed app or a flawed OS.

You need to make a choice, play with the kernels or do some work with PIC's...
If the OS is good enough to run the apps - it's subsequently not broken.

If it's not broken, don't mend it...


That's a full £ of my thoughts, not just 0.02 Cents


Cheers


Dan / M0DFI


On Friday 12 May 2006 21:18, Samuel Leathers wrote:
> just a suggestion, but if you are more interested in programming
> microchips than playing with linux kernels, why gentoo? I'd recommend
> something easy to setup and maintain like ubuntu, and then get code from
> cvs and compile manually.
>
> my .02 cents
>
> Sam
>
> > On 5/12/06, Marco Pantaleoni ####@####.####
> >
> > If "uname -a" says it's 2.6.12, it's very, very probable it's 2.6.12.
> > If you want to be even more sure, please do a "cat /proc/version".
> > This gets the version directly from the live kernel, so...
> > IMHO you have compiled the new kernel, but forgot to reconfigure or
> > misconfigured your boot loader (what do you use? lilo, grub, others?
> > Have you added a new stanza to lilo and re-run lilo? Or modified grub
> > configuration file?)
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Marco
> >
> >
> > I boot from the grub prompt. Not going to write a conf file until the
> > thing
> > is up and running the way I like.
> >
> >> --
> >> Marco Pantaleoni
> >>
> >> elastiC language developer
> >> http://www.elasticworld.org
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On Fri, 12 May 2006, Dan Andersson wrote:

> And why pissing about with Linux at all when there is FreeBSD?
>
> The Important thing is that the operating system should be secondary to the
> apps we want to run. At the very moment the operating system or different
> Linux variants makes a difference, it's eith a flawed app or a flawed OS.
>
> You need to make a choice, play with the kernels or do some work with PIC's...
> If the OS is good enough to run the apps - it's subsequently not broken.
>
> If it's not broken, don't mend it...
>
>
> That's a full £ of my thoughts, not just 0.02 Cents

Actually, that's good advice.  I've long ago decided that the BSD distros
had some significant advantages over any number of Linux distros, and the
fact that there are only 3 forks of BSD rather than the n Linux distros
seem to show that they have covered their respective territory quite
well:
	OpenBSD -- security
	NetBSD  -- portability
	FreeBSD -- originally the best i386 OS, and now ported to a
		number of different architectures ... so now, likely
		the most complete, and best PORTS package available.

I suggest that if you are reconsidering your Linux distro that you try
FreeBSD as a solid alternative.  As I type this, I'm using the latest
FreeBSD (6.1) release on a freshly installed HP Omnibook 4150 (old).
Works GREAT!

HTH ...
Cheers,
Rob.

On 5/13/06, Robert S. Sciuk ####@####.#### wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2006, Dan Andersson wrote:
>
> > And why pissing about with Linux at all when there is FreeBSD?
> >
> Actually, that's good advice.  I've long ago decided that the BSD distros
> had some significant advantages over any number of Linux distros, and the
> fact that there are only 3 forks of BSD rather than the n Linux distros
> seem to show that they have covered their respective territory quite
> well:
>         OpenBSD -- security
>         NetBSD  -- portability
>         FreeBSD -- originally the best i386 OS, and now ported to a
>                 number of different architectures ... so now, likely
>                 the most complete, and best PORTS package available.
>
> I suggest that if you are reconsidering your Linux distro that you try
> FreeBSD as a solid alternative.  As I type this, I'm using the latest
> FreeBSD (6.1) release on a freshly installed HP Omnibook 4150 (old).
> Works GREAT!
>

I've tried FreeBSD for about one month and got most GNUPIC tools
(gputils/gpsim/sdcc/pikdev/piklab/ktechlab/...) working. However one
big problem with FreeBSD is the support for USB. I could not get PICkit 1/2
and ICD2 to work under FreeBSD since libusb is broken there. In the end
I deleted the FreeBSD patition. In terms of hardware support, BSD is simply
not good as Linux.

I will say Ubuntu is one of the best for PIC developement now. Fedora Core
4/5 may another good choice as well.

Regards,
Xiaofan

Xiaofan Chen wrote:
  > I will say Ubuntu is one of the best for PIC developement now. 
Fedora Core
> 4/5 may another good choice as well.
> 

agree. For someone that has better things to do than play sysadmin these 
  2 are good.

the packaging tools for ubuntu are currently better than fedora in my 
opinion,  (using both regularly)
john

Thanks guys(and guyettes if so ye may be) ubuntu it is!

I tried it before and didn't like it much. Too wordy. I mean,
debian-installer/framebuffer=false; c'mon, what's wrong with just nofb?

Nevertheless I'm ready to pick up a new flavor(-our) if it means advancing
my PIC career.

Another thing, and this ubuntu seems to share w/ gentoo: bad dialup support.
Why does everyone presuppose broadband or wifi is universal? It aint.
Developers, have pity on us poor mountain folk living at the end of  10mi
phone lines! Where cell phones are useless and rabbit ears proliferate!

If ubuntu comes w/ pppconfig I'm all set :^D. Otherwise, it's iffy. Any
pointers appreciated.

-Maxim




On 5/12/06, John Sheahan ####@####.#### wrote:
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> Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> > I will say Ubuntu is one of the best for PIC developement now.
> Fedora Core
> > 4/5 may another good choice as well.
> >
>
> agree. For someone that has better things to do than play sysadmin these
> 2 are good.
>
> the packaging tools for ubuntu are currently better than fedora in my
> opinion,  (using both regularly)
> john
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Maxim Wexler wrote:

> Why does everyone presuppose broadband or wifi is universal? It aint.
> Developers, have pity on us poor mountain folk living at the end of  10mi
> phone lines! Where cell phones are useless and rabbit ears proliferate!
> 
> If ubuntu comes w/ pppconfig I'm all set :^D. Otherwise, it's iffy. Any
> pointers appreciated.
> 
> -Maxim

I've had broadband for years now, and couldn't go back to a modem, so no 
experience with modem support on anything recent.
Seems like you need a radio link to someone in ADSL range.

bash> which pppconfig
/usr/sbin/pppconfig

breezy has pppconfig, but I'd suggest you install the newest one. Dapper 
  in whatever prerelease you can get.
john

> Maxim Wexler wrote:
>
>> Why does everyone presuppose broadband or wifi is universal? It aint.
>> Developers, have pity on us poor mountain folk living at the end of  10mi
>> phone lines! Where cell phones are useless and rabbit ears proliferate!
>> 
>> If ubuntu comes w/ pppconfig I'm all set :^D. Otherwise, it's iffy. Any
>> pointers appreciated.

In addition to pppconfig you may want to save a lot of trouble and use 
an external modem if you are unfortunate enough to have a winmodem. 
Getting the latter to work is a black art.

I will not go into the surfing experience in 2006 using a modem 
connection. You will find out soon enough ...

good luck,
Peter