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Subject: Re: [gnupic] Gpsim and invisible nodes
From: Robert Pearce ####@####.####
Date: 4 Jun 2008 08:16:42 -0000
Message-Id: <20080604083132.73f04970.rob@bdt-home.demon.co.uk>

Hi Phil,

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:40:21 +1000 you wrote:
> Thank you for reading this.
> 
> If I connect, say, a single switch to a port pin then the connection is 
> visible, as it should be. However, adding further nodes causes all nodes  to 
> become invisible. Is this another gtk-extra bug and is a patch available to 
> fix it?
> 
Invisible in what sense? Do you mean the black lines on the breadboard vanish? If so, this is merely a very long-standing quirk of the breadboard (which is STILL marked as being in development and untrusted). The "trace all" button will restore most, but not always all, until you change something else. The connections still exist, though; it's only the black lines that vanish.

To be honest, I think the developers[1] have been treating this as very low priority, since the breadboard is not actually that useful. Indeed, I tend to leave it on another virtual screen and only switch to it very occasionally.

> I've added two patches to gtk-extra that were designed to prevent Gpsim 
> crashing but I haven't found any mention of any further patches.
> 
There's been some development going on in SVN recently, but not on the breadboard. We don't tend to announce patches - if somebody submits one via this list then you might see it, otherwise you need to check the bug tracker (which is often out of date on status so read the comments) or the SVN log.

Also, GPSim questions are often best directed to the GPSim mailing list rather than this more general PIC list.

Cheers,
Rob



[1] I'm not counting myself here, since I really don't get involved in the GUI side of things.
Subject: Re: [gnupic] Gpsim and invisible nodes
From: Phil ####@####.####
Date: 5 Jun 2008 23:41:50 -0000
Message-Id: <200806060939.23606.phillor@telstra.com>

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 05:31:32 pm Robert Pearce wrote:
>

Thanks for your reply Rob.

> Invisible in what sense? Do you mean the black lines on the breadboard
> vanish?

Yes, a single connection is always visible but multiple connections are never 
visible. I find that having the breadboard display visible connections is 
handy since I don't always have the hardware to experiment with. I live in a 
remote area and mail ordering small quantities is difficult.

>
> Also, GPSim questions are often best directed to the GPSim mailing list
> rather than this more general PIC list.

Thanks for that tip as well Rob. Both of the Piklab and Gpsim discussion 
forums at Sourceforge have a very low traffic rate and the likelihood of 
having a question answered is also disappointingly very low. I'll have 
another look for a suitable mailing list.

-- 
Regards,
Phil
Subject: Re: [gnupic] Gpsim and invisible nodes
From: "Andrew Burchill" ####@####.####
Date: 16 Jul 2008 04:06:55 -0000
Message-Id: <29a9a3c30807152106i2cb15875hc247cbbabb36e88f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

question directed to Phil,
did you have any futher luck getting gpsim to work under piklab?

I have been using piklab (SVN co 2906) successfully with a CCS compiler,
and ICD2 device. But today I decided to add gpsim to the toolbox.
I did a SVN checkout today, and set about building it. I'm using Ubuntu 8.04
with all updates, and had to add..
bison
flex
libreadline5-dev
libpopt-dev
libgtkextra-x11-2.0-1
libgtkextra-x11-2.0-dev
this allowed a build to finish, and install.
but now I have the same error you had 2 months ago.
'Could not detect supported deivces for "GPSim"'

Is anyone else successfully running gpsim under the piklab IDE?

regards
Andrew
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